Check back in the future as I plan on testing them out for The Guide. Been busy with adult life. 3) Does gloss coat and top coat impede the joints on the Gunpla kits at all? If it's fluorescent acrylic paint, then it 100% needs to be put over primer first (preferably white). If you want to try it yourself, you’re in good hands. Yes, you can do a panel wash onto plastic and the best part is you don’t have to be careful about ruining a paint job. The two top coat layers insure two things: a completely smooth finish, and a secure seal after filing the rough tips. The Mr Hobby topcoat will go over enamel and should protect your paint providing you’re not too rough when handling the kit. I’m going to have to look into this. and I dont like the blue I wanted to spray paint it black. If you’re looking over your current epoxy job and you are unhappy with the finish, then it may be time to consider pouring a second coat. Thanks for the info! However the Astray, showing a lot more frame, it will be more noticeable if you go this method. If the eye sticker wasn’t there, it would look odd. If you were hand painting a piece with testors enamel paint using multiple coats, what do you do with the paint while you wait for each coat to dry? I’ve been looking at either getting some spray cans or borrowing a friends air brush. I found that people were split on using enamels to spray a gundam. Not sure what I did wrong. First of all, thanks for this, really appreciate the effort you put in making this blog and how youre helping out gunpla modellers, specially us beginners. In other words, if you seal a seam and sand it down smooth, will the flat top coat totally conceal this work? Gel Coat Application Guide Photo credit IStock Photo. I see, I got the idea now, thank you very much. anyway just to confirm that i got it right, 1st i spray a light mist of top coat … let it dry a bit… then go for the wet coat ? Id probably recommend a two pack yacht pain if I knew more about those. Followup question. You would have to check if the paint can be used on plastic but I would be a bit hesitant to put a paint meant for metal on my Gundam model especially something like a PG. Pouring the 2nd Coat. While in Taiwan I had the good fortune of ready access to spray paints, since setting up this little site and receiving letters from other modelers, it's become apparent that good modeling spray cans aren't available in many areas. Most modern kits don't have this issue and many older ones just need a wash before painting. Namely the chest that has both foil stickers and a dry decal on it. and then what’s the best way to paint the inner frame with spray can? (assuming you want a gloss finish). I would suggest taking it apart by sections (arms, torso, legs, feet, etc) and then spray the sections but you can add a top-coat now. For top coat applications, i.e. Relevant Point#3: If you are working on removing seam lines from areas such as the head, etc, you’ll need to come up with a method which will allow you to remove the line but still complete the final assembly. Or is it advisable to do it during sunny day? Would I be good to go following these steps or is there risk of the layers interfering with one another? I agree with Ol'Painting, 2 coats for new walls in not enough. Ive looked online but have only found colors if i mix them myself not straight spray can colors though. Resist the urge to use your topcoat as a base coat and vice versa. Back from the dead, it's Baby TheEnd with a new gunpla review! Thanks! Hi, I don’t want to step on Syd’s toes (especially on his great site) but I wanted to mention that you should let the enamels cure completely before spraying. There are two methods for applying additional epoxy resin coats: sanding down your first layer after having let it dry for 24 hrs or, if you're in a hurry, you can pour a new resin layer every 3-5 hrs.. Hi.Dumb Question do you add stickers to the kid too or just the decals?Another question:Do you fix the kit first then prime,paint,top coat or do you just prime,paint,top coat on the runners instead.Which do you think would be btr? They comes in black, grey, and white and are cheaper per volume than most modeling specific brands. When you spray several layers (primer > pre shade > post shade > top coat) does the type of “paint” you use matter? I have a quick question for you. Using tiny triangles/squares/diamond shapes I cover the surface that is to be masked. Undercoat to build up colour. if i spray paint (lacquer based paint) most of the pieces … then use enamel paint to handpaint some areas wouldn’t i have problems once i spray the top coat (which is lacquer based as well i assume) ?? Im planning to repaint my RG strike freedom inner frame to a much vibrant shade of gold. Glossy top coat gives your kit a sleek and shiny look, just like a brand-new car. There’s lots of experienced modelers around the net and I learn as much from them, if not more, than people learn from me. Hello everyone! When it comes to going by the colour guides in the manuals, do they apply to a certain painting technique (ie hand paint, air brushing, spraying), or can one get the correct proportions with just spray, the color guides in the manual what percentage of what color you need to mix together. These are questions you will need to ask yourself (and answer!) Hi Syd, just wanna know can we spray paint the model on a cloudy day? so be careful with the wet coat. I've used them extensively over the years with consistently great results. To find out how many coats you need, we reached out to celebrity manicurist and NVLA nail polish founder Gina Alcedo, who has painted the nails of Amal Clooney, Donatella Versace, and Beyoncé. That is why too many coats can fail or at the very least, smudge more readily." I think the ones Syd uses are the same as mine so i can answer as well. Once the decals are on the final phase is…. Hey Syd, Specially the Kiki's and Gunpla one. Ha.. Hope you can shed some light on this. I use a CV and require 3.5 to 5 mil dry per mfg recommendation. (Well, maybe that's a stretch.) My question is, will spraying Mr hobby water based top coat protects my paintjob from scratching? If I want to make a section silver, for example, I’ll spray the entire piece silver then cover the section with a length of masking tape, then take a tooth pick and press the masking down along all the edges of the section, and then take my design knife and cut away the excess from the edges. or is it better using the spray cans that you using? Proves that top coat may not be suitable after all, any suggestions on alternatives, preferably painting on the final coating to prevent such occurrences from repeating? I followed the advice of the Hobby Shops to get the Mr. Hobby Top Coat, but there’s a problem: When painting on dark-colored paints (such as black or red marker paint), the color tends to lighten and worse still, not being able to protect the paint from smudging. Anime and Manga - Gundam This is a split board - You ... Tell me how the top coat went on your strike's decals if you finish it by monday Will do. If not, you may assemble and find that two concurrent pieces, having not received the same coats, feature different tones. Apparently many other modelers prefer to apply a layer of topcoat before they ink panel details, then add another coat afterward to seal the work. Spray in thin layers and let dry before spraying again. Will different areas of your kit have a different finish in the end? That color is also naturally very transparent so you need to put it on in layers. Be sure to be about 30 centimeters away from the piece and spray lightly. So to begin, start by giving a nice thin gloss coat on the surface of your kit. Now my question is when should I do mt top coat(matte)? Do you mean crumbled as in simply falling appart or did the pieces litteraly fell into bits of plastics ? This is very important. It most likely will make it look slightly darker/balance it out visually depending how many layers you use. Masking If you’re careful and first put a light ‘mist’ spray of lacquer topcoat on the enamel in should go on without affecting the enamel. Have Gunpla questions? 2 coats externally and only 2 colours. Resin, on the other hand, needs both a wash and prime for best results. Mr. color black and Mr. Level Thinner, This is one reason why I think bandai needs to make it so people from other countries can reorder parts, cuz now the $50 model I bought is useless, From what you wrote you didn’t do anything to it to cause it to crumble unless it has been in constant direct sunlight exposure but I think you just go a bad part :/. It most likely will make it look slightly darker/balance it out visually depending how many layers you use. More times than not both colors receive the same top-coat finish so I’ll spray that once I remove the masking. Some lighter metal colors have no problem going on dark pieces, but in general, whites, yellows, oranges, light blues, some reds, will need primer if going on to darker colors. any opinion would be helpfull to me… thanks…….. I use the White often because it doesn’t affect the color of the paint going on over top. Lacquer can be damaging to acrylic and enamel paints so if you are going to use it you must be careful. Relevant Point#8: If you choose not to gloss coat after panel lining, there is a chance the water from the decal or any Mark Setter/Mark Softer you use can cause the panel line to run/smudge. I tried that and it didn’t smudge. Anyone have any experience with anything else in Canada ? Usually I use the joint or connection part as the area I use to hold the piece on clip when I paint so that area actually doesn’t receive the paint and because it’s the joint it isn’t seen really afterwards when the kit is together. Additional layers of polyurethane would mean that you sand each layer, which can be time-consuming mainly when you apply more than 3 coats, and you are forced to wait so that they all dry. Also.. for panel lining, would that go after all the painting is done? The best is proper modelling masking tape. Alternatively, if this idea is no good, do you know where i could find a list of the colors i would need if i use hobby paints? If you go through these forums, you'll find most guys spray 2- 3 coats of base, and 2 -3 coats of clear for a "factory" type job. Don’t apply too much poly. (lacquer primer > acrylic pre and post shade > lacquer top coat)? Helped me a lot. The guys are just making sure you got the message that you sprayed too many coats, especially if that "base" was actually SS metallic. It's also worth noting that in my experience, shades of red are generally the hardest colour to completely white out. Hello, I am new to the gunpla world and I recently got the Nu Gundam ver.ka. The panel line marker will work fine here but many experienced modelers will opt to use the Panel line wash method. “Generally, a base coat doesn’t have the shine of a topcoat, and a topcoat doesn’t have the ‘sticky’ surface that’s important in a base coat,” says Dr. Waldorf. Mr. Top Coat, 2. will give it a go and hopefully have some good results to show . It is sealed, doesn’t stain, hard like plastic (the thicker the coat, the more like plastic, but I am not necessarily recommending a heavy coat). https://www.facebook.com/groups/GundamMS/. If you don’t plan on modifying anything on the suit before painting you can skip this section, but if you are considering it, maybe I can help. i looked on GunplaTv but didnt see anything or what not. Tutorial Top Coat Gunpla, Clear Matt effect on gunpla by Putra Shining Welcome to Putaro Plastic Modeller! I was panel lining the frame of my MG Wing Zero EW and the knee and part of the lower leg just crumbled to pieces. If you want to sand the part usually it is around the gate mark to smooth it down. Opting for a blue, black and gun metal/silver theme! If the seam line is still showing after this process you can use some putty and fill in the gaps. It will just be on the regular parts (ie. Cause I really want it to have matte look, and I want it so badly. Also, how would you discard of the paint after using it? I dcided to use acrylic paints instead of lacquer as acrylic is easier to handle and posses least heath hazard compared to lacquer. Collision repair shops typically apply two to three coats … This final coat is often referred to as “top coating”.) After giving the final coat, let the coat dry for at least 24 hours to attain the smooth texture. Whether it's the lightness of the white, or a thinner mix that's used, you're going to spend more time applying coats than simply going with a darker colour. Hi Chris, that kit comes with waterslide decals too so my advice would be to gloss coat it before you do the decals and panel lines. Dec 9, 2020 so shall i build up the whole kit 1st and decals it than break it down for painting and than rebuild it back or paint it as i build? Here is the correct link: http://www.gaijin-gunpla.com/2011/08/gunpla-my-way-out-of-the-box/. Lacquer based top coat can be harsh on gundam markers and cause smearing. I ended up running out mid-way on the Heavyarms, but luckily I had an extra can of Testors Dullcote. Check out the... Gunpla, plamo, tutorials and reviews since 2008, You can find me (and a whole lot of better builders) on the official Discord of r/Gunpla and r/Gundam. Is there any conflict here with the paints? ), then panel wash it? These should be used outside as they tend to put a lot of particulates into the air (white especially). Thanks for your time Syd. Is it possible to paint the part (multiple layers until its fully painted), then lacquer topcoat it (which is better? http://www.naritafamily.com/howto/paint.htm. One coat? In between, you only need two full minutes for your nail polish to dry enough for the next layer to coat on nicely! Thanks, I’m a little confused, is the gloss coat you used to prep for panel lining and markings the same coat you used for the final coat? On the flip side, if you under do it, i.e. Can i paint the whole frame itself or should i disassemble then paint? Current project is the SD Wing Zero Custom. One on each side and a quick one across the top. What color will you be using? Will you be painting more than one color on the same piece, which means masking? Also, if this would work would I have to prime first? There is a calculator below for determining how much you’ll need. 1) Do you sand down the pieces after priming or not? I can always buy acrylic clear coat bottles and thin them before spray painting. Redditor? How do you address repainting kits that have already been topcoated? If you assemble the joint first and then spray it you won’t have to worry about reassembling it and it should work fine. I think you can find clear in red, blue, green, orange, and yellow, and probably more. I am a long long time anime fan and almost everything Japanese. And, if urethane clearcoat is applied over that heavy basecoat, It gets trapped under the urethane and lifts it, causing a bubble or lifted area. 3/. My first kit which is on ordered is the MG Exia. Gunpla are manufactured by Bandai in Japan, or China, which has an exclusive license in manufacturing and marketing the kits around the world. I know you made one about spray cans in episode 12, but I was hoping if you can make another one that is more detailed and explains how to use top coats, masking etc. I've heard future can take up to a week to cure, but around the board i see 24 hours. The Bio Seaweed Gel system features a skim coat how many coats for gel nails, leading layer, shade and also strengthener done in a solitary container. The key to an even manicure is two coats of three strokes each -- that's it. I agree Syd, i had a accident with my HG Tallgeese kit a few years back and the shield became brittle and softened the plastic, i was able to save the shield, but barely, ive avoided them all since. Started working on my stack of kits. I plan to use a spray can since I don’t have an airbrush, but recently my friend said that spray can produce a thicker layer of paint than airbrush is that true? Need help here! Didnt even know this was your blog until I started reading! I plan on ordering MG Wing Gundam but the center jewel is a clear part rather than a clear green part and I looked online to find a online U.S seller that sells clear green Tamiya enamel paint and I had no luck. Once you've perfected this method, you might not ever go back to the salon! There are several types of top coat such as gloss, semi-gloss, and matte (flat). Relevant Point#6: Gloss coat!!!!! I just started painting Gunpla and I’m gonna need sone pointers. Yes, but how about holding the parts when I’m painting, and by the way I will use spray paint so I wonder how to dry the part after spray painting because almost the whole part would be covered with paint and some parts does not have any hole or anything that I can put a stick and clip on it. Imma order some enamels now. The key part is that it generally sprays very well and drives thin and smooth. Though, like any paint, too much in one area during a coat and it will drip or pool. What are your thoughts on using Testors enamel spray cans on a gundam model, is this a good idea, or should I stick with an acrylic or lacquer spray? Wonder wtf Bandai's marketing team was thinking, and more! Hey syd-sensei, I just had something weird happen. Any thoughts? How long do we need to wait for it to dry? I do have another question, I am sanding down all my nubs but i have come across with a problem with the nubs. These lines have dried for about 2 weeks. Step 01. wow really? There is a quick work around to that depending on which type of markers you have : get some of the paint out on a disposable plate or something you don’t mind having paint on and use a paint brush to apply the paint. Keep me updated on your progress, Whats up Syd! Because I’ve been painting and once the paint dries, then apply the panel lining. Can I spray clear flat lacquer on enamel paint? 2. For my first kit I want try it and see how I like gunpla. The amount of layers depends in the color. I usually don’t do much to anything to panel lines unless I’m scribing them myself. So what can one use to top coat over Gundam marker made panel lines ? But restoration and custom paint shops will often lay down at least four to five layers. The logic is this removes any oil which may have been added to prevent the sprue sticking to the metal mold. Another bad thing about applying many coats is that poly tends to get … I see a lot of recommendations to use future to seal the base acrylic paint before moving onto panel lines/top coat. It's been long time since the last update. Transparent parts should be taken-off. Separating parts (legs, waist, arms, head) is better than extending the parts when top coating. Sally Hansen Insta Dri Top Coat $4.97 buy it “Skipping a topcoat not only cuts down on the shiny finish of the manicure but it also shortens the longevity of the manicure,” Candido says. Can I spray clear flat lacquer on acrylic paint? Putty is also another way to add shape or fill gaps in your kits. For show cars, there are about as many methods as there are painters. I won’t go into any real detail about the putty because I feel there are far better people and tutorials out there. This is a forum for this kind of doll but if you google this: What you need to know about respiratory protection! I wanted to take a minute to write about priming as it's something a lot of modelers do before painting a kit. A good coat of primer creates a nice consistent coat for paint to stick to. It’s always best to do it on a dry day but you can paint on a cloudy day if the humidity is low. so…if I was about to put layers of primer and paint to the parts, is it really going to hinder the joints and make the parts harder to reassemble? Couple of question to ask here. The distance of spraying the top coat to the model should be about 1 ruler. I’m working on a reverse wash for Kshatriya’s sleeves. Once the panel line is cleaned up and dry you can gloss top coat it again to protect it before moving onto the markings or you can go straight to the markings. Use the same technique with your top coat, which protects the polish and can also speed up drying time. Thank you for the answers. Or is there a “secret formula” to remove the paint already applied to it? How Many Coats of Water-Based Polyurethane Apply on Kitchen Table: The standard application process is similar to the oil-based polyurethane. affeinvasion. It would be very interesting if you could take some paint thickness readings of the flexible coating layer that you had on top of a piece of bare metal to get an idea of the thickness of that piece. I drive a Mazda 3 and it is the copper red mica color. If you want to paint the inner frame It’s best to paint each piece of that frame once, then bend the limbs and paint it again. If you do not, the lacquer topcoat can lift the panel lines and make a mess. I think your options are to paint the cockpit as a section meaning with the pieces together or each part separately and then reassemble. I’ve picked up the Gundam paint markers, and was wondering if I should still do the Priming or masking? A good temperature should be above 22 degrees and with good sunlight. RGs are kind if tough. How to Paint a Gundam with Brushes Martin's Introduction. One way to do these things is to add plastic. Thanks again for the tip. In the case of heavily applied or too many coats of any basecoat, it can take days for the solvent to gas out. Back when I was working on the Musha Mk-II I wrote about how I removed the seam line in the head, so rather than repeat myself, I’ll point you to the article. hehehe! The first Gunpla kits were sold in 1980 in Japan.Gunpla kits consist of several trays of parts or \"runners\" that either snap-fit (most post-1990 models) or require glue (older models prior to 1990) to put together. How would I make this orange piece blue tinted? Painting black on a yellow piece; no problem. The second coat helps assure a uniform coat. There are all kinds of plastics you can buy from sheets to rods. Either of these methods work very well, allowing for a very strong bond between resin layers. Wish me luck, I am painting my first kit. Hi, would like to ask a silly question here, my gunpla is finished only with panel lining, what if I directly spray matte finish to my gunpla? Otherwise, you will get a lot of grains on the surface. I also always lightly file tips to remove rough glitter after applying and curing first top coat. That’s all I can think of right now. It won’t work with spray, but the fun part is trying. Note that covering with white primer is going to be time consuming and require a lot of a lot of coats. If you enjoy what it is you do and are satisfied with the result, how can it be wrong? Top Coat: Final layer of paint on the kit, usually either clear acrylic or clear lacquer, used to protect all the work done (painting, decals, weathering etc.). I will try this later. Have you tried using industrial spray paints(e.g pylox)? Note that covering with white primer is going to be time consuming and require a lot of a lot of coats. thanks for the tip syd. Thank you From Japan for accommodating my article! Thanks for all replies. HLJ use to do it but I just noticed the service is temporarely suspended. http://www.naritafamily.com/howto/paint.htm, http://www.google.com/search?q=tamiya+color+chart&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=Anm9T5DTMKWOmQXClfEX&ved=0CGcQsAQ&biw=1308&bih=844, https://www.facebook.com/groups/GundamMS/, http://www.gaijin-gunpla.com/gunpla-my-way-out-of-the-box/. These paints are very susceptible to scratches, hence the importance of top coating your Gunpla once you are done. 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